Crazy Eddie
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I gotta respectfully disagree brother. And I’ll explain why.You get pip from the oil... Same reason people get pip from the flu shot.
Just about everyone gets pip at first.. then it stops.
Same reason you got it ... The test e probably used a different oil. But if you keep using it.. it stops.
But I'll definitely continue to pin my quads... Fuckin hate pinning my glutes. So fuckin awkward. Plus a few hundred injections in my quads... No problems. Just stay away from your it band.
I have tried multiple different kinds of enanthate esters over the years. And they all give me pain. Some of the compounds were grape seed, some cotton seed and some caster oils, even tried MCT oil. Same results every time. From .3 on up bad pain for days. Redness.Swelling. Severe discomfort to the point I have to take Advil and put an icy hot patch over the injection site, for about 3-4 days.
Now I know my guy uses grape seed oil for the 3 different kinds of test he sells. It’s all the same. I get PIP from the test E. And not the C or P. Or the Nandrolone Decanoate. All using the same oil. Without getting into some giant lengthy novel about esters and molecular weight carbon atoms bla bla. I’m goin to say it’s the ester,not the oil.
The Test C I use is 250mg/ml I can put 3ml of that and Test P in my body. Thats around 600+mg of test and ZERO pain.
Yet same oil. Same 250mg/ml of Test E and can barely do 75mg without wicked pain and my entire torso turning red for days.
Now I’m not a doctor or a rocket scientist.
But to me that says im allergic to the enanthate ester plain and simple.
And I’m 100% sure my guy is dosing it properly because I’ve gotten bloods done and seen my test levels. I’ve even gone so far as to pin myself 500mg on a day of a blood test and seen my test levels at 3000 and free test at 1000. So I know the stuff is legit. Aside from the gains. The bloodwork doesn’t lie.
Also elevated absolute Neutrophils levels the day of the test indicate my body is trying to fight something off it doesn’t agree with.
So. Not saying you are wrong.
I’m just saying I don’t believe personally it’s the oil because we have ruled that out by process of elimination. And I’ve heard of people having the same issue as me. And switching to test C and no more pain.
Besides from experience I prefer Cypionate ester over Enanthate because I feel it packs more of a punch at least with my body. And Propionate I really like also I feel like I can lift a truck the days I decide to use some Test P